Episode 8: The Murawina Story with Aunty Norma Ingram and Aunty Margret Campbell | Kids, Culture, Community

Episode Description

In this inspiring episode of Kids, Culture, Community – SNAICC Yarns, we sit down with two legendary Elders, Aunty Norma Ingram and Aunty Margret Campbell.

Hosted by Narelda Jacobs, this conversation takes us back to Redfern in 1973, to Sheppard Street where Aunty Norma, Aunty Margret, and a group of determined Aboriginal mothers created Murawina, the first fully Aboriginal-run preschool in Australia. With no funding, no toys, and facing a system against them, they built a movement from the ground up.

They share how they broke rules to develop their own curriculum rooted in Country, even if that meant taking busloads of children to the park to find the trees. They yarn about the strategic humour that became a tool for survival and resistance, the fight against colonisation and the ongoing battle to have Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander knowledge systems valued in education.

This is a story of care, intergenerational strength, and belief that passing culture and belonging to our children is the ultimate act of love. Aunty Norma and Aunty Margaret’s legacy is a masterclass in community-led change, reminding us that the answers have always been with community.

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This artwork was created to visually represent Kids, Culture, Community – SNAICC Yarns, a podcast by SNAICC – National Voice for our Children, dedicated to amplifying the voices and experiences of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children, families, and communities.

At the heart of the artwork is a central motif drawn directly from the SNAICC Marulu design – a symbolic anchor that represents SNAICC’s identity, purpose, and vision. This central element grounds the piece, reflecting SNAICC’s leadership in advocating for the rights, wellbeing, and futures of our children.

Surrounding this are three figures, symbolising a community in conversation. These figures represent not only the act of yarning, but the diversity of voices – children, families, Elders, leaders, and community members – who will be heard through the podcast. The figures are encircled by layered soundwaves that ripple outward and inward, capturing both the expression of voice and the act of deep listening.

These soundwaves reflect how stories, knowledge, and lived experiences are shared, received, and echoed across communities – from grassroots voices to national conversations. The design intentionally shows sound as both something that travels outward to inform and inspire, and something that returns inward to strengthen identity, connection, and culture.